Japanese scholars suggested that China's military strength
after the mistakes do not repeat Japan's militaristic
Core Tip: August 21, the Seventh Beijing Tokyo Forum on
the fifth sub-forum - Security Dialogue held in
Beijing. Chao Long Island Japanese scholars have long said that
China hopes conscious awareness, not to repeat Japan's mistakes,
not backed by military force, in the South China Sea for some small
countries to exert pressure. I saw the fact that, so I may have some concerns
over.
Data for: People's Liberation Army Deputy Chief of Staff
Zhang Qinsheng Japan Academy was inspected equipment.
August 21, the Seventh Beijing Tokyo Forum on the fifth
sub-forum - Security Dialogue held in
Beijing. Forum adopted the "round table form", its meaning should
be an equal exchange, regardless of the
level. It should be said, Japan's lineup is
"strong". In contrast, the Chinese team seems a little "weak"
some. The identity of the participants from the point of view,
the two sides seem little more than
"unequal." Japan were mostly engaged in actual military affairs, the
Chinese are mostly academics. However, this "home" in China, "war" together, the Chinese
are not "on paper" the.
United Nations Association of China President Chen: Japan
should not regard China as an imaginary enemy
This morning, former Secretary General of Boao Forum for
Asia China Long at the conference talked about Sino-Japanese
cooperation in the economic field, with a "very ashamed" saying
that China and Japan in this regard is not
well cooperation. If the subject extends to the Sino-Japanese security
cooperation, I would like to use "ashamed and ashamed" to
express. From the "World War II" to the present, China and Japan
for the Asia-Pacific regional security do? China do? Japan do? China and Japan together and do
what? We can say that almost did not. In fact, whether we like or do not want to admit that we
are all put this matter to the United
States. Now, enter the new era, with the changes in international
forces, or the development of growth and decline, although the two
countries can not exclude the U.S. security role in Asia, but China
and Japan should be our two Asian powers to regional peace
and safe time to play its due role.
China and Japan there is no cooperation in the security
field, the key obstacle is the lack of mutual
trust. This is due to historical reasons, but also the result of
post-war development of the situation. Entered a new period of time, if the two parties on either
side to the other as a strategic competitor or imaginary people, to
establish mutual trust between the two countries
impossible. I remember stealing a Chinese fable ax, is the home of a
person lost an ax, a neighbor he suspected was
stolen. From that neighbor's every move like a person who stole an
ax. Later, he found that the ax, look at the neighbors, I feel
like a neighbor stole it all from where the ax
man. So, if any party in Japan, the other imaginary objects and
positioning strategy, no matter how much effort to do the other
side, he is stealing ax people. Sino-Japanese strategic mutual trust between the door will
never open.
From China, we have not the Japanese as an imaginary
enemy. China is Japan's only concern is that, once cross-strait
situation changes if the need to use non-peaceful means to resolve
the time, Japan will rely on the Japan-US security treaty with the
United States, among other factors, and obstruct China's peaceful
reunification of the motherland. So, I do not understand why Japan in action on the
imaginary of China as it should?
Modernization of national defense is one of China's four
modernizations.Our Mr. Deng Xiaoping once said that the four
modernizations are not synchronized. In the reform and opening up, the expense of national
defense to do, to let go in front of economic
modernization. Now, we achieved success in economic modernization on the
basis of started around the modernization of national
defense. This is already there, laid down 30 years ago, what can it
strange? We are China as a big country, for example, started the
aircraft carrier began sea training in Japan caused great
repercussions. Why China has an aircraft carrier in Japan feel a
thing? Other countries did not feel a
thing. The problem is where? What kind of psychological state, making it China's
military after the Japanese touched the
nerve? I think only two sides to each other not to each other as
rivals, China and Japan have established strategic mutual trust
based on the play to open the door before the door closed when not
strategic mutual trust.
Japan and South Korea Takeshima dispute, the dispute with
Russia are four northern islands, the Diaoyu Islands dispute with
China. However, Japan has territorial disputes on the issue,
China and South Korea and Russia's attitude is
different. In China, denied the territorial dispute, the other two
countries, be sure to let people recognize the territorial
dispute. Is it because in Japan, Diaoyu Islands under the effective
control it? Not long ago, a Japanese scholar and I conducted in-depth
exchanges, we believe that the issue of the Diaoyu Islands should
reach consensus on four points. First, we must admit that this dispute is the legacy of
history, but should not affect bilateral
relations. Second, recognize the objective existence of the
dispute. Third, resolved not to take any unilateral action to
change the status quo. Fourth, in their disputes to seek common
development. If this is done, and we Chinese fishing boats will not go
there. Go there to do? It also charges the oil!
Japan's Democratic House members, former Defense Minister
Zhao Long Island a long time Administrative Officer: What is the
purpose of China's marine activities?
Japan's Liberal Democratic Party, Shinzo Abe became prime
minister when Japan and China had proposed the development of
"mutually beneficial strategic
relationship." However, Abe has proposed a concept only, and no actual
content. In his view, Sino-Japanese strategic and mutually
beneficial relationship should include four aspects: first, the two
sides do not stick to short-term gains and losses, have long-term
vision. Second, the Japan-China relations is not only the
relationship between the two countries, from the global point of
view, from an international perspective to understand the
relationship between the two countries look to re-examine the
relationship between the two countries. Third, it is important that we never forget the past, but
not rigidly stick to the past to the
future. Fourth, the increasingly close relationship between Japan
and China, both to understand differences of opinion, do not
deliberately ignore the differences. The differences as a reality of our relationship, and then
gradually be resolved.
Just now, President Chen referred to the imaginary
problem. Now China has a very rapid trend into the international
maritime order in which it is not imaginary dimension of the
problem. I would like to ask Chinese friends: China in the South
China Sea and East China Sea, or a positive Western Pacific Ocean,
what is the purpose? Strategic intent? Is to establish a stable sea lines of
communication? Or finally want to exclude the U.S. from this
region? Including aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines with
ballistic missiles and other Chinese in the development, China is
not trying to take the first island chain and the sea areas between
the second island chain as a sacred area? In addition, the exclusive economic waters of foreign
military action, activity, China is a look at how this
problem? Is how to understand?
(Moderator), Keio University, Japan Professor Kokubun good
as
Some people think that mountain can not be two tigers in
East Asia, Japan can not do a two side by
side. Now this sub-forum is a mountain, with 15 experts and
scholars, that is, there are 15 tigers. Next, we follow a Chinese, a Japanese side in order to
speak to discuss.
Wang Yizhou, vice president of Beijing University of
International Relations: Diaoyu possible future
trouble
We all know that China-Japan high-level in the past on the
Diaoyu Islands have some of the verbal agreement, but I think it is
not enough. I even have a feeling the next time trouble may be in this
aspect. I think that Japan should have absolute power level, with
a high level to maintain the status quo will seek a
solution. However, the Japanese high-level frequent substitutions,
so China is also difficult to action.
(Japan) has served 30 years in the Japanese Self-Defense
Force's defense rose Yamaguchi University: Japan Maritime Self
Defense Force's most advanced
I want to emphasize here is that the Japanese Maritime
Self Defense Force is very advanced, from a global perspective is
very sophisticated navy. Now, China's naval modernization is gradually to
develop. In such circumstances, we will consider the issue of
maritime security, crisis management mechanisms to consider the
issue.
Distinguished Research Fellow, China Institute of
International Jiaxiu Dong: two there is a lion outside the
Tiger
When we talk about Asia, Tiger likes to talk about a
single deposit or a co-existence of tigers do, in fact, this time
should also see a lion - the United
States. Post-war Japan has been the United States as his allies,
has been to follow the United States. The United States also has been emphasizing the US-Japan
alliance is the cornerstone of U.S. Asia-Pacific
strategy. However, the United States as global hegemon, deal with
Japan's status, role and influence opinion, is not
immutable. Now, the American mind is there in
Japan? This is to ask the Americans.
Currently, there are three Asia-Pacific strategic
situation, first, the rapid rise of China; Second, the United
States to return to Asia; Third, Japan wavering.China is working with the United States to develop
mutually beneficial and win-win, mutual respect and partnership,
the development of mutually beneficial strategic relations with
Japan. In such circumstances, the Japanese how to position
themselves, how to treat his relations with the United States,
China and the U.S. on how to treat the interaction in the Asian
region is critical.
(Japan) University, former president of Japan's defense,
peace and security Nishihara, president of the Institute are:
China's Diaoyu Islands event handling problem
For the Chinese side views just mentioned, I would like to
have a few anti-theory. People often say I talk too harsh, but I think this is a
good opportunity, but also please the Chinese
anti-theory.
I see some of China's policies are
contradictory. Ambassador Chan said earlier in the territorial dispute
over Japan's policy conflicts, the South China Sea policy, China
has not the contradictions, inconsistencies in
it? China says Sino-Japanese relations are strategic and
mutually beneficial relationship, but the handling of the Diaoyu
Islands issue, I think that is a violation of China's treatment of
this subject. In addition, China to stop exports of rare earths
problems. The rare earth resources is very important for Japan,
China exported a sudden stop, I think it is against the basic
spirit of the strategic relationship of mutual
benefit. As for understanding of history, China's own historical
problems have some misconceptions. This morning, Ambassador Niwa said Sino-Japanese relations
to each other the most important thing is to tell the truth, I
think so.
China Foundation for Strategic and International Studies
Director of Academic Committee Zhang Tuosheng: China and Japan need
to establish a crisis management mechanism
First of all, I think only the Japanese cooperation, both
countries have a better future and the future of
Asia. So, I do not agree, "one mountain can not accommodate two
tigers" argument. If as a strategic choice, it is completely
wrong. Secondly, I am now in Japan's political and security
situation is not very pessimistic. Thirdly, at the territorial and maritime rights and
interests is debatable. It now appears that the problem in the past two years on
the rise, it is worth attention. Japan two years due to domestic economic difficulties,
coupled with China's GDP has more than Japan and other reasons, the
Japanese fear of China on the rise, especially in the development
of China's military concerns on the rise. It is worth seriously. I think Japan should be addressed to establish the current
maritime security crisis management
mechanism. In the high-level government, diplomatic, military
departments, and between the two countries have established think
tanks crisis management mechanism, to avoid the crisis, crisis
prevention, crisis management and control. We do not wait until after the crisis, think of ways to
control it, more work should be done in front.
(Japan) Yasushi Akashi, former UN Deputy
Secretary-General: weak coming out looking great Tiger
Tiger
Mr. Zhang has just made "mountain can not be two tigers,"
the opinion is not correct, I am in favor. So, in order to allow two tigers to mountain, we need to
pull the eye teeth. At the same time, we have seen, on a hill, some tigers
have nuclear weapons, powerful than the other
tigers. So, the weaker the tiger, might flee to the mountains next
to seek the help of a large tiger, so do the security situation in
Asia more favorable. This time, we have mentioned the issue of crisis
management mechanism building, and I am very happy.
Former Chinese Embassy spokesman in Japan, the Chinese
People's Institute of Foreign Secretary-General Huang Xingyuan:
China no longer be silent in the cause of the South China
Sea
Six times before the group forum, I have been in the media
group. This time, I suddenly assigned to a security
group. I think this may be some necessary
link. Because the issue of security, the media rarely gentle
language. And security is always a hot topic in the
media.
Japanese friends have just raised the action in the South
China more active than in the past, it is not
right. In recent decades, in addition to China in the South China
Sea islands one by one to be occupied by neighboring countries,
some outside, we do not occupy any of the
islands. It should be said, this is our
regret. If positive action is now, that is actually part of the
Chinese government began to stop this
aggression. Because the government must be accountable to the
people.
Diaoyu Islands issue, which is both realistic and
territorial issues, but also the historical
problems. This is inside the United States are particularly
important.After all, the Diaoyu Islands is a time bomb, could be
detonated at any time, the fuse grasping the hands of the
Americans. We have found that the Diaoyu Islands between China and
Japan, when something happens, there is always a country to come
out to make irresponsible remarks. Many things happened around the Diaoyu Islands, I have
also been involved in treatment.Japan on the Diaoyu Islands dispute surrounding the
handling of the issue, there is a tacit understanding between the
Government of. This understanding is a long-term mutual trust and
cooperation reached. No matter which side, if a sudden change in rules of
conduct, and suddenly it applied to the application of domestic
law, is bound to be a problem, that little things become big, the
ultimate impact of the Sino-Japanese relations.
Safety is a concept? Many friends that was safe, the enemy is not more
security. We do not artificially to shape the enemy, or to each
other as enemies. Sometimes, we may start to become narrow, anxious, could
not help the instigation of others, playing the distant past attack
of the game.This is something we have handled it so smoothly as a
major cause. We often with their own colored glasses to see each other,
you will first see each other less democratic system, the military
is not so transparent, the direction of development is less clear,
but may also revive militarism, etc., I mean it is
both. Therefore, mutual trust is the future, we must form the
most important goals and direction.
(Japan) Defense Agency before the affairs minister,
chairman of Ocean Policy Research Foundation Masahiro Akiyama: all
imaginary army of any country
Japan's defense budget, from 1993 until now is basically
flat, with no significant increase, there may be some
reduction. But China's defense spending during this period, what kind
of changes, I think we all know. Why is China so expanded to include defense spending, I
want to get a response to the Chinese, the Chinese side to make a
note. China is now also into the ocean, we do not say that it is
hegemonic, or militarism, but the army's activities have expanded
to the ocean, why? I also want to respond and explain.
Ambassador Chen said just imaginary enemy, I think the
discussion is pointless. Regardless of the country's armed forces will agree that
their country may one day be attacked, are developed based on the
premise of this defense policy. Thus, it is to establish an
enemy. We should not imaginary problems to discuss, but should go
to promote Japan-China relations.
Chinese Academy of Military Sciences Research Fellow, the
world's military, Major General Yao Yunzhu: why China can not have
aircraft carriers?
I was going to speak on the topic of US-Japan military
alliance security implications of China. However, after listening to some of the issues raised by
the Japanese side, I would like to do first thing to
respond.
The first response is on China's navy is not within the
first island chain wants to have as their inland marine
issues. I think the idea itself is very
realistic.China's geopolitical position of the Chinese navy if you
want to exit adjacent to the sea, only eastward towards the western
Pacific, or south and then west towards the Indian
Ocean. Otherwise, China's navy on the sea only in his activities
within the scope of the neighborhood. China is now a lot of weight in the international
countries, not only the Chinese people, as well as the
international community are required to China's armed forces play a
greater international role. If the Chinese navy east of the first island chain, United
States, Japan on suspicion within China should have seen the first
island chain within China Lake, suspect to put the U.S. out of the
Western Pacific; if the Chinese navy south, the South China
Sea neighboring countries would feel that China is aggressive;
another Malacca Strait if China's navy into the Indian Ocean, India
and that China has a string of pearls strategy to control the
Indian Ocean, the Indian Navy should drive out from the Indian
Ocean. If this is a way of thinking, what kind of transparent
China are useless. So my question is, if the Chinese navy to conduct
training, in the end toward which direction it should go, not only
as a threat? This is my response to the first question.
The second response is to the South China
Sea. In the South China Sea Inside, one is China and other
ASEAN countries on the islands, reefs, o sea, maritime rights and
interests of the dispute. This problem is through negotiations and political,
diplomatic, peaceful means to solve. Inside the South China Sea, and one of China's opposition
to the U.S. exclusive economic zone in China for sea and air
reconnaissance of China's problems.This air and sea surveillance in the eyes of the Chinese
people how can not be seen as peaceful and friendly
actions. From the military point of view, the Chinese army during
the war that the U.S. is prepared, which is a full height of
hostile action. Therefore, China does not agree, strongly opposed to U.S.
warships, military aircraft from China in a place so close to keep
the frequency increasing to the sea and air
reconnaissance. South China Sea is in a re-issue of the right of free
navigation. Maintaining regional free sea mohair smooth lines, China's
interest, in line with the interests of ASEAN countries, in line
with U.S. interests, in line with the interests of Japan, in line
with South Korea's interests. Now, the right to freedom of navigation is not disturbed,
no damage. Therefore, in the South China Sea can not confuse three
questions.
The third response is the aircraft carrier
issue. Three weeks ago, China announced that transformed an old
aircraft carrier. Carrier is the use of research and
training. Now, why does China need aircraft
carriers? Asked the Japanese, Americans are
asking. Actually very simple, the Chinese army to safeguard
national sovereignty and territorial integrity, the need for
aircraft carrier! China's national interests are also expanding, military
forces need to be sent overseas to vote, which requires the
aircraft carrier! China is a regional power, has increasingly become a
global power. In such circumstances, the international community is also
expected to play a greater role in China. China also wants to play a greater
role. Aircraft carrier battle itself has the power, but can also
be done a lot of non-military action, humanitarian aid can
be. For example, Japan's "3.11 Earthquake" After the tsunami,
the U.S. aircraft carrier George Washington was involved in rescue
work at sea. Although China has aircraft carriers, but China is still
the same three: This is a defensive national defense policy will
not change; a peaceful, diplomatic means to negotiate with
neighbors to resolve the territorial disputes of maritime rights
and interests will not change policy ; most important thing is the road of peaceful development
China's national strategy will not change. Japan not because of a problem is suspected carrier of
China's most basic national policy.
Finally, I can not help but ask two
questions. First, in Asia, many countries have aircraft
carriers. India has aircraft carriers, Thailand also has aircraft
carriers, the U.S. has 11 aircraft carriers is why China can not
have aircraft carriers? I would particularly like to listen to Japanese friends to
say, why China can not have aircraft carriers?
Second, for decades, Yokosuka Naval Base in Japan are
stationed in a long-term U.S. aircraft
carrier. You know how Chinese people think the carrier is
it? You do not think the carrier is to make the first or
second island chain island chain have become Japan's Neihu you
do? Or to the entire Pacific Ocean within the United States,
the lake turned into it? From an aircraft carrier will be able to derive such a
conclusion, what is its logic?
(Days) before the Japan Defense Agency Executive Nakatani:
Japan because China could not be a permanent
obstruction
First, I want to say this forum has been held for a
seventh. Seven years ago, a time when the United Nations reform,
the Japanese almost can enter the permanent
members. The five permanent members, in addition to outside China,
have agreed. However, China did not end with, resulting in Japan does
not have to become permanent members. At that time, Mr. Chen Jian at the United Nations
work.
Second, I want to talk about, although we are neighbors,
but military cooperation is very small. Chinese Navy and Japan Maritime Self Defense Force did not
cooperate, the defense minister's visits as
well. We have been to China south of the port, was not even the
welcome ceremony, which is a very disappointing and regrettable
exchange. So, I hope we can establish between a more mature
partnership.
Third. I would say Japan is an information disclosure state,
military spending are some small open. However, I think China is opaque in this
regard.
(Japanese) Japan Defense University five hundred flag head
Fax: carrier is China's clear choice?
I had a foreign research scholars, the contents of my
research is the largest Japanese American strategic
policy. "Japan's postwar diplomatic history," I wrote this book,
also published in Beijing, China. So, I basically can be regarded as a historical
scholar. As a historian, for historians of curiosity, I am
concerned about what kind of China to take the path of development,
how to build a country.
China has experienced many hundred years of
misfortune. In that basis, China is now building a very great
China. Because China has a long history which, by the power
politics of pain, so he should get out today, the first island
chain, the second island chain, which I can
understand. However, the Chinese for more than a billion people is not
required to do so? China to build aircraft carrier I am not saying okay, but
would like to ask this for China is a wise
choice? I want to hear your ideas one.
Round table to sit around a circle of guests after a
speech, a keynote address beginning the UN Association of China and
the former Japanese Defense Minister Chen Jian Administrative
Officer Zhao Long Island to discuss a long time for the first half
made concluding remarks.
Chen Jian: Japan wants a little late
I listened to the speeches today, Japanese friends, I want
to talk about the following points. First, on China's defense
modernization. Just now, a lot of things Japanese and cited concerns,
including aircraft carriers, naval activities in the Western
Pacific and so on. All this reflects a problem that is the light of the lack
of confidence in Japan, said Japan's mind is heavy, or the country
of China as an enemy. If these things happen in other countries, Japan did not
want to go. Only when China embarked on this path, the Japanese began
to have ideas.
In fact, these ideas should be in Japan 30 years ago to
produce. Since Deng Xiaoping 30 years ago confirmed, after China's
economic development up to national defense
modernization. Sorry, Japan would like to get a little bit
late. Japan, however, these ideas are unfounded, you just look
at China's new "National Defense Law" will understand.
Japan could not "permanent", which can not all blame
China. First, most non-permanent members do not want to add
permanent members. Japan and four countries tied to requirements of
"permanent", it increases the intensity of
opposition. Many countries are not opposed to Japan for permanent
membership, but against India, against Brazil, against
Germany.China is Japan's "permanent" attitude is: Welcome to Japan
in the Security Council play a greater
role. But can we properly and openly support Japan's
"permanent", it also depends on China's public
opinion. In the national feelings of mutual trust between the two
countries is not high stage, come out openly to China to support
Japan "permanent" should be said is difficult.Whoever is when China's leaders must take into account
China's vast public opinion. Therefore, the Japanese do not regard China as an
imaginary enemy, we do not regard Japan as an imaginary
enemy.
Diaoyu Islands in September last year, the collision
occurred, the error is not the collision itself, but rather the
Japanese approach. Japan's post-processing is beyond the understanding
between China and Japan and the usual approach, you catch the man
went to the Japanese mainland. This exceeds the scope of history, the LDP government did
not do so when the Democratic Party government, when they do, that
we Chinese people are very surprised and feel can not be understood
as the Democratic Party attach importance to Sino-Japanese
relations has been, ah!
Chao Long Island a long time: China not to repeat the
mistakes of Japan
I was quoted in his speech today, when Sun Yat-sen in
Kobe, Japan on the West and the East of benevolent hegemony of the
famous speech. The Japanese have already had a profound
self-examination. We hope that China and self-awareness, not to repeat
Japan's mistakes, not backed by military force, in the South China
Sea for some small countries to exert
pressure. I saw the fact that, so I may have some concerns
over.
China and Mr. Deng Xiaoping put forward to keeping a low
profile, this is a conscious as a great power, a
modest. China today is not the way it should insist on
it?
Conclusion: On this day, sub-forum in the first half of
the discussion revolved around the question point-Japan security,
the war of words, you come to me, people feel the "general battle
is more than just on the battlefield."